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and confidence and we can then have the revenue from the higher income to help deal with the fiscal cliff. the problem with closing loopholes is it's difficult to get anywhere near the type of revenue you can get from the rates on the higher income. >> fair enough. now if there is a compromise and you get the rates you want, don't you have to give up something? what key government function that's important to senator cardin would you put on the fable and a hey, i'll let this go to get something i want? >> we've always said it's got to be balanced between revenue and spending cuts. we understand and know we need to bring down the cost of healthcare. if we can bring down the cost of healthcare, we can save the economy money. >> would you be willing to see the medicare enrollment age raised? >> all that does is shift the cost to other people. we've got to bring down the cost of healthcare. our economy pay as to much for the healthcare dollars. we've got to get better results. >> is there anything else you can specifically put on the table? i got to press you on this that would hurt you the w
to the fiscal cliff that's threatening our economy and threatening jobs, the white house has wasted another week. >> we've had time. the president has given the republicans flexibility to come up with a credible, specific plan. what they offered in return was an empty letter lacking in specifics. >> meanwhile, vice president biden is having lunch with several middle class americans who would see their income taxes go up if the tax cuts are not extended. all of this comes as the first jobs report since the election exceeded expectations. the u.s. economy added some 146,000 jobs last month. that was enough it to drive the unemployment rate down to 7.7%. joining me to talk about all of it, florida congresswoman debbie wasserman schultz and she chairs the democratic national committee. good friday afternoon to you. >> thank you. >> john boehner said today that democrats' plan is to, quote, slow walk our economy to the edge of the fiscal cliff. how do you respond it to that? >> well, that's just utterly preposterous. the republicans right now in the house of representatives have a bill that would ext
another white house effort to rally support around its approach to the fiscal cliff. joe biden sitting down with seven middle class americans worried about their taxes going up. >> these are hard working, serious americans who are playing by the rules, doing it all right, and struggling already in this economy. >> reporter: jobs numbers, proof the administration says that the president's economic policies are paying off. >> you see it in the retail industry, you see it in transportation. you see it in health care. and you see it in other sectors. you do see a continued movement that continues to show some positive growth. >> reporter: while cautioning the nation's economy is far from a full recovery, administration officials emphasize positive growth, suggesting it puts them in a stronger negotiating position with republicans. one senior administration official told cnn, quote, we shouldn't muck it up by raising taxes on the middle class or playing chicken with the debt ceiling. but one economist who advised senator john mccain, sees no advantage in these numbers for either side. >> i
between congress and the white house. 25 days before the u.s. is set to go over the fiscal cliff and still no deal. >> the president wants more revenue and fewer spending cuts then if we fell off the fiscal cliff. >> pulling the rug out from under these families would delay the recovery. how do we get the economy moving? weekly unemployment claims spike. governor chris christie pressed president obama for additional aid. >> i am going home, guys. >> hiring plans plans last month. matching a record low from november of 2008. planned layoffs rose 20% to their highest levels in six months. consumer spending is down. >> i want to thank tiffany. >> the fiscal cliff negotiations are down to president obama and john boehner. the uncertainty could take a toll. >> it hasn't affected hiring and layoff decisions yet but it will if we get into next year and haven't nailed this down. >> on monday the president travels to michigan to talked economy at a diesel plant. >> why is superstar sandy plain such a role in the jobs report? >> 24 states were affected one way or the other. businesses had to shut do
but the house will be back in session december 17 to deal with the so called fiscal cliff. the house will not asuren until an agreement is reached. when the house is back in session live coverage as always on c-span. a report out of the labor department show that is 146,000 jobs were added in november and the unemployment rate falling to 7.7%, the lowest since december 2008. there had been concern that is hurricane sandy could afblingt the numbers bit only had a minimal effect. employers added fewers jobs in october and september than initially estimate pped and the unemployment rate fell mostly because more people stopped looking for work. earlier today on capitol hill john boehner commented on the fiscal cliff negotiations with reporters. >> this isn't a progress report because there is no progress to report. when it comes to the fiscal cliff that is threatening our economy and jobs the white house has wastde another week. secretary gitener came here to offer a plan that had twice the tax hikes that the president campaigned on and had more stimulus spending thanned the in cuts. and
cliff concerns, so that's good news. >> surprising exactly no one, the white house and republicans had different spin on the numbers. >> if congress does address the problems that it needs to address, concerning the fiscal cliff, if we have reasonable resolution type of programs that the president has been proposing to support the economy in the short run, get us on a sustainable fiscal path in the long run, protect the middle class we're going to see progress in this economy. >> the risk the president wants us to take increasing tax rates will hit many small businesses that produce 60 to 70% of the new jobs in our country. that's the whole issue here. >> on the fiscal cliff front, no new deals or concessions made public, but "the new york times" reports the dynamic has changed. at the request of speaker boehner, senate leaders and nancy pelosi have been dismissed from the negotiating table. leaving just the speaker and the president to hammer this one out. today vice president biden is hosting middle-class families at the white house, continuing to pressure congress to strike a deal o
about the fiscal cliff. [laughter] let me start off just by, what we will do chris, we will do the house rules and cut in half. in 30 seconds and then we will have time to elaborate on all of this. i just want to go through the panel. what do you think the odds are that some kind of appeal will be cut by january 1 in order to avoid sequestration? mark, i will start with you. >> i think it's 80% that we will avoid sequestration. the question is though, is this going to be a big enough deal and will it actually be the down payment that will lead to something else? it will actually avoid the consequences. that percentage would be lower than the 80%. >> let's come back to the big picture. just in the short-term by january 1, will we avoid the cliff? >> i think it's likely that we will avoid it. it's so easy for us just to do what we need to do. i think the real line in the sand is -- and i have said that for a long time. i think that is one hopefully by that time we will have real entitlement reform which will bring all of this together. >> chris? >> i think it's better than 50% that we are
. >> with no breakthrough today, fiscal cliff negotiations, could this be a starting point? "outfront" republican congressman james lankford of oklahoma, incoming chairman of the republican policy committee, the fifth ranking position in the house gop leadership. appreciate you're taking the time. what about this idea of racing taxes on everyone? the math works much better. >> i heard your lead in when you said this is a new idea. actually, it's not a new idea, there are several democrats who have floated that for a while. the code word is we want to go back to the clinton tax rates and talk about the clinton economy that we had a much more vigorous economy and growth and we should go back to the clinton tax rates. what that really means is all tax rates on all americans go back up because the tax rates were brought down in 2001 and 2003. i don't support that. i don't think that's a great idea. it would slow down the economy. >> when you look at economist's evaluations, it would slow down the economy. it would. there's no question about it. but if the problem is that we have a lot of debt and the
to close ranks over a potential fiscal cliff deal with the white house. outside conservative groups are voicing their displeasure saying speaker john boehner could even lose his speakership. carl cameron joins us live in washington. so he has a lot of problems with conservatives right now, car. >> reporter: sure it's not just off the hill. some of the members on the hill. fiscal conservatives are once again whispering, in some cases outwardly and openly explaining about house speaker john boehner and his handling of the negotiations with the white house. john boehner's proposal to increase revenue $800 billion by closing tax loopholes and reforming the code has real problems for some house republicans, most of whom actually campaigned promising to at least hold the line if not cut taxes. this week john boehner tossed four con s*efr teufs known fo conservatives offer key committees. the budget committee and the financial services committee. those four members are complaining but their removal from the committee and john boehner's proposal are supported by majority eric cantor. kevin
report because there's no progress to report. when it comes to the fiscal cliff that's threatening our economy and threatening jobs, the white house has wasted another week -- another week. >> reporter: there are reports this morning that fiscal cliff negotiations are really between president obama and speaker boehner right now. the speaker said he spoke on the phone with the president yesterday and it was a pleasant conversation. but more of the same. reporting live from washington, d.c., alison burns, ktvu channel 2 news. >>> 8:15. bay area sheriffs may be changing how they deal with suspected illegal immigrants. state attorney general kamala harris recently told the sheriffs they don't have to hold illegal immigrants want to deport them. she said those with serious criminal record -- records should be detained and deported and local departments have to decide how to handle others. >>> police made several arrests at the building where hundreds chose to report >>> the so of netflix may be in trouble for something he put on facebook. back in july, he wrote on his page that netflix empl
weekends now before the u.s. comes face to face with the fiscal cliff. tonight on "special report," house speaker john boehner says there has been no progress in negotiations with the president. he is again calling on mr. obama to come up with a new proposal. vice president joe biden says a deal could be done in 15 minutes. all this comes as the government announces a gain of 146,000 jobs in the month of november. the unemployment rate fell to 7.7%. that is the lowest in four years but that was mostly due to people who stopped looking for work. both sides agree the u.s. does not want to follow down the path of greece. what is to blame there? too much austerity or too much taxation? we'll look at the problems inside his own party, for speaker boehner. it's friday. that means the lightning round with the panel. "special report" from washington starts at 6:00 eastern. now back to new york and "the five." ♪ ♪ >> bob: kay. there is music for you. on december 3 last year, 16-year-old tyler alfred from oklahoma was driving under the influence and crashed his pickup truck killing his passenge
with the so- called fiscal cliff. he says the house will not the interim until an agreement is reached a preventing tax increases and spending cuts scheduled to take effect in did worry. live coverage as always on c- span. and john boehner are just spoke to reporters on capitol hill, on the so-called fiscal cliff negotiations and the economy, including this morning's release on the november jobs numbers. here are his comments. >> good morning, everyone. this is not a progress report, because there is no progress to report. when it comes to the fiscal cliff threatening the economy and jobs, the white house has wasted another week. eight days ago the treasury secretary came here to offer a plan that had twice the planned tax hikes the president campaigned on. more stimulus spending than the added cuts, and did and didn't but net -- in definite increase on the debt limit. four days ago we offered a serious proposal based on testimony of president clinton's former chief of staff. since then there has been no counter offer from the white house. instead, records indicate the president has ad
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rates that were there when i was predz. >> with now break through today and the fiscal cliff negotiations, is this a starting point? "outfront" republican congressman james langford of oklahoma, incoming chairman of the republican policy committee, the fifth ranking position in the house gop leadership. good to see you, sir. appreciate you taking the time. what about this idea of raising taxes on everyone? the math actually in this case is much more promising. it works much better. >> right. i heard your lead-in on it, and you said this is a new idea floated by howard dean. ints a new idea. several democrats have floated that a while. the code word is going back to the clinton tax rates and talk about the clinton economy and we should go back to the clinton tax rates. what that means is all tax rates on all americans go back up because the tax rates were brought down in 2001 and 2003. so it's not new, and no, i don't support that. i don't think that's a great idea at all. it will slow down the economy. >> all right. the truth is when you look at economists' evaluations, it wi
problem. >> we've only got 25 days until the fiscal cliff. >> according to "new york times," house speaker john ba boehner has asked democratic leaders to step aside so he and the president can negotiate a deal one on one, and no one is objecting. >>> the crisis in egypt remains volatile, with massive anti-government rallies planned today. >>> heartbreaking survival story for a woman stranded in the snow in the california sierra nevada mountains. >>> shoppers at a seattle macy's had to be hospitalized when an escalator they were riding malfunctioned. >> fire to the end zone. touchdown. >> broncos with their eighth straight win. >> all that -- >> three, two, one! >> my 50th birthday, she gives everybody a car and then she's all, thank you for coming to gayle's birthday! >> we're talking about oprah, right? >> no, of course not. >>> and all that matters. >> south carolina tea party says jim demint is resigning. >> leaving the senate a lot better than i found it. >> jim demint leaves some big shoes to fill. >> jim demint leaves some big shoes to fill. then again -- captioning funded by cbs en
's no progress to report. when it comes to the fiscal cliff that's threatening our economy and threatening jobs, the white house has wasted another week. >> welcome back to "hardball." that was speaker boehner's downbeat assessment of fiscal negotiations. he went on putting blame squarely on the president. let's listen. >> this president has adopted of a deliberate strategy to slow walk our economy right to the edge of the fiscal cliff. it's time for the president, if he's serious, to come back to us with a counteroffer. >> shortly after house ni mort leader nancy pelosi put the plame back on republicans. let's listen. >> the only obstacle standing in the way of middle income tax relief are the republicans unwillingness to ask the top 2% to pay their fair share. this is a moment of truth. the clock is ticking. christmas is coming, the goose is getting fat, but in many homes across america it's very -- a very, very lean time. >> and today's jobs report showing 146,000 jobs added in november and unemployment dipping to 7.7% may give the president some leverage in negotiations with boehner. but wh
plan to avert the fiscal cliff that can pass both the house and the senate. withdrawing from the recommendations of the simpson- bowles commission, the president could propose a plan that would not only avert the so-called fiscal cliff, but also help us avert the fiscal abyss. if president obama were to offer such a plan, republicans would act favorably. going over the cliff is unnecessary. as it has been observed in "the wall street journal," the president is boxing in the republicans. he is offering them a deal they cannot accept. first, the president has repeatedly called for a balanced solution involving both revenue and less spending. what is obvious to the most casual observer is that this plan is not a balanced. the fiscal cliff involves nearly four dollars of anticipated revenue from higher taxes for every dollar of spending cuts, yet the president wants more revenue and fewer spending cuts. if we fell off the cliff, his plan calls for another round of stimulus spending. you have got to be kidding me. what the president's plan lacks is any reform in our entitlement sy
that the president has adopted a deliberate strategy to slow-walk our economy right to the edge of the fiscal cliff. >> sreenivasan: the president has insisted there will be no deal unless republicans agree to raise tax rates on the top 2%. republicans say the tax hikes would only hurt job creation. but in arlington, virginia, vice president biden said today's jobs report shows the economy is turning a corner, so it's critical to get a deal. >> there is a sense... there is a sense that if we can reach an- - act like adults and reach an agreement here on the fiscal cliff, the upside is much higher even than the downside is if we don't. >> sreenivasan: biden said the president is willing to consider what he called any serious offer. aides for the two sides were expected to continue talking, through the weekend. wall street was mostly higher on the news from november's jobs report. the dow jones industrial average gained 81 points to close at 13,155. the nasdaq was hurt by another sell-off in apple stock, and fell 11 points to close at 2,978. for the week, the dow gained 1%. the nasdaq lost 1%. this
families if they don't work out avoiding this fiscal cliff. the president sat down with a couple, a teacher, a man who works at an auto dealership. they live with her family. the family says they're looking at a couple month's rent if they have to pay more taxes. the president reiterated he absolutely will not sign any deal that does not increase taxes on the wealthy in this country. he said the problem is solvable. >> for them to be burdened unnecessarily because democrats and republicans aren't coming together to solve this problem gives you a sense of the costs involved in very personal terms. >> reporter: now in another development here on capitol hill minority leader mitch mcconnell on the senate side ended up filibustering his own bill here in the senate yesterday. this was a move president obama wants to raise the debt ceiling without much interference from congress. he has criticized that. he filibustered his own bill after democrats called his bluff to vote on it. lynn. >>> tracie pots for us in washington. tracie, thanks. >>> new jersey governor chris christie is making a personal
the fiscal cliff. in just a few days at the end of the year. in their first discussions yesterday after a week's hiatus we are told there were no signs of progress and even a hardening of positions. in fact, earlier president obama discussed the stalemate with middle-class families. >> for them to be burdened unnecessarily because the democrats and republicans aren't coming together to solve this problem gives you a since of the costs involved in very personal terms. >> he showed what he is really after is assuming unprecedented power to spend taxpayer dollars without any limit at all. >> the major sticking points continue to be how to handle tax rates for wealthy americans, and also, what to do about reducing spending on entitlement programs like social security and medica medicare. >> aide between the president and the speaker of the house met and the talks basically went nowhere. according to one of the president's aide he said higher taxes of course on the wealthy. a deal must include permanent extension of the debt ceiling and source also say that indicated no willingness to go any
there may be only two people at the fiscal cliff negotiating table. according to the new york times house speaker john boehner says he wants to negotiate directly with president obama. he has asked that senate leaders and house minority leader nancy pelosi be excluded from future talks. and clearing a negotiating room improves the chances for success. just 25 minutes from now the closely watched monthly unemployment report will be released for november. coming up at 5:15 what economists say the numbers released this morning don't accurately reflect the current jobs market. >>> time now 5:05. reports an oakland church youth group visiting florida today is out of money and their belongings because thieves broke into their van. a group of 24 teenagers and young adults were eating at a restaurant yesterday. about an hour after arriving for a weekend youth conference. they are saying thieves broke into their van, stole $12,000 cash. one member of the group was able to have money wired to them so they at least spent last night in a hotel. there is no word yet if this group plans to come back to
cliff negotiating table. according to the new york times house speaker john boehner says he wants to negotiate directly with president obama. he has asked that senate leaders and house minority leader nancy pelosi be excluded from future talks and those say clearing the negotiating room clears the chances for success. f we have new unemployment numbers released just a few minutes ago. employers added 146,000 new jobs in november. the unemployment rate dropped to a four-year low of 7 .7%. coming up at 6:15 the factors that economists predicted would have a negative impact on the numbers but apparently did not. >>> time now 6:07. we are following this story. oakland church youth group traveling in florida they are out of money and their belongings because thieves broke into their van. a group of 24 teenagers and young adults were eating at a restaurant yesterday about an hour after arriving far weekend youth conference. someone broke into their van stole 12,000 cash. one member of the group says they were able to have some money mired so they -- wired so they did spend last night in
the hour. president obama and house speaker boehner one-on-one in the fight over the fiscal cliff. we take the plunge in 25 days now. that means devastating tax hikes and spending cuts take hold at the start of the new year. congress breaks for the holidays in seven days. but democrats and republicans may be making headway. house speaker john boehner asked democratic leaders in the house and senate to get out of the way so he and the president can negotiate a deal alone. everyone seems to be on board. paul steinhauser is live in washington. nice to see you. new polls. what do americans want to see in a fiscal cliff deal? >> the polls are at these num, the big sticking points, should taxes be raised on those making over $250,000 a taxes would be raised if there's no deal to avert the fiscal cliff. yesterday as you said, the president was in northern virginia meeting with a middle class family who would suffer if there was no deal. last week the president went to suburban philadelphia, to a small business again to make the point of his side in these fiscal cliff negotiations. different than
. julian, i want to get to the fiscal cliff in a moment, but you were the chief counsel for the democrats when they passed doma into law in 1996. i need to get your immediate reaction to the supreme court news this afternoon. >> well, i think it's very good for the advocates of marriage equality that the court took both of these issues up. the first issue is this question of the defense of marriage act. it was passed really in the middle of the night in 1996 and signed very reluctant lie by president clinton and e sin essentially says one state does not have to recognize the marriage equality rights another state may give. if you are married legally in the state of massachusetts and you happen to reside -- this is as a gay couple -- and you happen to reside in the state of california, the state of california does not need to recognize your massachusetts marriage, and as a result there are over 1,000 benefits that can be denied to a legally married gay couple if they happen to be living in a state that doesn't recognize gay marriage. my guess is the supreme court will declare that unconsti
input. this is something that the white house has proposed as part of their fiscal cliff proposal. it's a nonstarter for republicans. but he wanted to put it on the floor to show that even democrats don't support giving the president that kind of authority. he did that and harry reid turned around and said, let's see if we can do it with a simple majority for 51 votes and democrats it appeared had made sure they had that and then mitch mcconnell in return ended up objecting to the very thing he propose eed. take a listen. >> now the republican leader objects his own idea. i guess we have a filibuster of his own bill. >> so this was some maneuvering that went on. mitch mcconnell won the day when he proposed a vote overall on the entire fiscal cliff proposal and harry reid objected to it. it's a little bit of a back and forth going on in the midst of these talks that are now reopened. >> you can't filibuster your own bill. that makes no sense. >> apparently you can. >> thank god it's friday. thank you. we appreciate the update. >>> other stories making news that are not all crazy. >> i
on the white house and lawmakers to reach an agreement on a plan to avoid the fiscal cliff. financial experts were on capitol hill yesterday to talk about the negative impact if those automatic tax increases and spending cuts tick in january 1st. meanwhile president obama paid a visit to a northern virginia family who would suffer financially if a deal isn't reached. >> for them to be burdened unnecessarily because democrats and republicans aren't coming together to solve this problem gives you a sense of the cost involved in very personal terms. >> still the white house says the across the board spending cuts and tax hikes will takes effect if republicans refuse to raise taxes on the wealthiest americans. meanwhile a new survey shows the president's approval rating is at the highest point since the raid that killed osama bin laden. in addition, 42% believe the nation is heading in the right direction. >>> 6:10, a tycoon wanted for murder, how john mcafee ended up in the hospital. >>> a van plows into a jewelry store, narrowly missing the customer, what the driver says caused her to lose cont
for the american economy. >> an added wrinkle to the fiscal cliff talks is the debt ceiling, with the government on pace to reach its borrowing limit early next year. the white house stated its position on the 14th amendment, which some theory rise is a way for the president to raise the debt limit independently, should republicans attempt to use it as a negotiating tool. >> i can say that this administration does not believe that the 14th amendment gives the president the power to ignore the debt ceiling, period. >> the fiscal cliff talks reached a new low yesterday when, somehow, the new york jets got dragged into it on the senate floor. >> it's not one of my favorite teams, but it's really, really fun to watch, and that's the new york jets. coach ryan, he's got a problem. he has three quarterbacks, sanchez, he's got tim tebow, he's got another guy. he can't decide who their quarterback is going to be. that's the same problem republicans are having. romney's gone, but he's still in the background. we have mcconnell and we have boehner. who is the quarterback, mr. president? who is the quarterb
some focus on how hess could be next. united technologies will give us aw fiscal cliff update and a sense of how aerospace is doing now that goodrich, a premium supplier to 'o'space, is part of the family. on friday scotts miracle grow. endless excuse making for missed quarters. can they explain the poor execution? i'll listen, but frankly i doubt it. also on friday we get november industrial production and capacity utilization numbers. did november really matter or was it all sandy? i think prices were stagnant. but i want to try to figure out whether the new boom in cars and homes could impact industrial production and capacity utilization no matter what. i'm trying to understand the unemployment number today. after these numbers that we get now, after those we're going to be officially on recession watch going forward, meaning that we expect all the good numbers to kind of let's say peter out because of the fiscal cliff and what it's doing for hiring, or the lack of it. and speaking of the fiscal cliff, let me say to washington, no vacation without legislation. we will be v
fiscal cliff at year's end. aides to president obama and house speaker john boehner, sitting down on thursday. but no progress was made. the sticking points, tax rates for wealthy americans, a possible lifting of the nation's debt ceiling and cutting spending on entitlements. >>> and in yet another bizarre twist in the bizarre saga of software tycoon john mcafee. mcafee was rushed to the hospital thursday from a detention center in guatemala city, after complaining of chest pains. he's now back in his cell and could be send back to belize, where police want to question him about the murder of his neighbor. >>> now, here's diane sawyer with a preview of tonight's "world news." diane? >> so, josh, it's friday. it's great to talk to you. and how about a holiday tradition for years? everybody wondering, what happened to the determined little boy they loved? well, he's all grown up. and he has a perfect gift for you. tonight, behind the scenes of a christmas classic. and he is our "person of the week" tonight. >> cannot wait to see that. >>> and finally, well, we would be remiss if we
class family to talk about the potential impact they face from the looming fiscal cliff. it's now just 25 days away. nbc's tracie potts joins us with the details from washington. tracie, good morning to you. >> reporter: lynn, good morning. the white house has been all over social media with this one, asking what would happen if your family had to pay another $2,200 next year in taxes? 100,000 people responded, including that northern virginia family that the president met with yesterday. they said $2,200 for them is a couple months' rent. >> for them to be burdened unnecessarily because democrats and republicans aren't coming together to solve this problem gives you a sense of the costs involved in very personal terms. >> reporter: the other big issue here on capitol hill, raising the debt limit. the president wants a new authority. mitch mcconnell filibustered his own bill. the senate minority leader filibustered his own bill that he had raised earlier about raising the debt ceiling. he called for a vote. democrats called his bluff and agreed to the vote. then he talked that bill to
't have a fiscal cliff deal to vote on this weekend. >> while both sides are talking about the need to compromise, it doesn't sound like either side is ready to make any serious concessions. 9news reporter delia goncalves is live on capitol hill with more. good morning, delia. >> reporter: good morning. many americans and some senators simply cannot believe with so much at stake here for the country that the house would essentially take a long weekend off at home. but many republicans believe they can do much more at home than here in washington. both sides remain at odds on how to solve the crisis. the two sticks points? obama's proposal to tax the wealth 2% and the debt ceiling, the $16.4 trillion debt ceiling is expected to hit its limit mid-february. democrats want to remove the limit therefore removing the threat of default. they say that would allow the government to pay off medicare benefits, military salaries and tax refunds. >> this is a solvable problem. the senate has already pass add bill that would make sure the middle class taxes do not go up next year by a single dime
. mr. dean just last night said having us go over the fiscal cliff actually wouldn't be the worst of ideas. if that's how we're going to go and president obama has said that he's not going to sign anything without the tax increase, fine, let them own it. have republicans take a step back and give president obama what he wants. >> i've got to get out. thanks to both of you. >> thank you. >> howard dean, we preeshtd it. and katie pavelich, we appreciate it. >>> egypt's government deployed tanks around the presidential palace today after clashes with protesters killed seven people. in syria, meanwhile, rebels continue to advance on damascus, prompting concern that president assad's regime will respond with chemical weapons. question, should the u.s. intervene in any of these here now is mark ginsburg, former white house middle east advisor. welcome back, mark. here's the thing. we drew a red line, president obama drew a red line over these chemical weapons of mass destruction. at what point do we have to start bombing them to prevent them from moving and utilizes those weapons of mas
's who i am. melissa: the amazing christian says he can work his magic to fix the fiscal cliff. that's right. all he needs is an hour and a room with both president obama and the house speaker. basically he would play a denim and check on them. he says if he can bring them to the right state of mind and through mental suggestion and mental conditioning that will start compromising. it's a trick of like to see. >> i love someone -- it's unmanly kind of love, but i love this guy the three and a half and on my show of force years ago, and he predicted the super bowl victories. unwilling. melissa: before the game? >> before the game. he lost something up in my room and did not give in hawaiian. a ticket home with me. he predicted it. however embarrassing a think he's met his match year. to vote -- folks inside the beltway don't think logically. that's what i don't think it'll work. >> i said bring the men. given the track. >> bring the man. they can actually find that compromise. >> of love to see him in there. and now he would make sense. melissa: one that at a magician. we already have
-year low. the timing is interesting, obviously, just as we're learning that fiscal cliff negotiations are now a party of two, the president and the speaker. the "new york times" reporting that house speaker john boehner wants to speak only to president obama out of public view. though we've just learned that boehner is holding a news conference at 11:00 this morning eastern time. the fight, though, still very public. vice president joe biden is meeting with a middle class family. and yesterday president obama met with a virginia family. tax hikes for the rich are nonnegotiable. >> just to be clear, i'm not going to sign any package that somehow prevents the top rate from going up for folks at the top 2%. but i do remain optimistic that we can get something done that is for families like this one. >> joining me now is barry, msnbc political contributor and editor for grio. hello, guys. >> perry, i'm wondering if these new unemployment numbers add to the president's leverage? >> i think they do. the big thing is the election. but the jobs numbers suggest that the economy is doing well a
the fiscal cliff. i screw up a recovery that finally has a little bit of momentum with a housing market carving out a bottom underneath it for the first time in years in a way this kind of raises the stakes to get it right because we seem to be kind of on track. >> rick, did they take out -- rick, did they add those government jobs to get below 8% and now they're taking them back? is that what happened? >> you know, you don't want to go there. >> i'll go anywhere. i'll go anywhere. >> i'll tell you what the number is. >> hey, hey, hey, hey! >> go ahead, rick. >> hey! >> i asked him. >> go ahead, rick. >> how about one second, steve? one second, all right? we lost 350,000 people in the labor force. we're at a time in our history where it's all about jobs and tax revenues. the only people who bring tax revenues to the party are people who work. and the discussion is mainly about the people that are working that are way at the top. i urge everybody to read the op-ed by our buddy peter shipp today because i've had so many discussions about, you know, in the '50s the tax rate was -- >> rick,
that the president has adopted deliberate strategy the slow walk our economy right to the edge of the fiscal cliff. instead of reforming the tax code, cutting spending, the president wants to raise tax rates. even if the president got the tax rate hike that he wanted, understand that we would continue to see trillion dollar deficits for as far as the eye can see. washington has a spending problem. not a receive knew problem. the president doesn't agree with our proposal, i believe that he's got an obligation to families and small businesses to offer a plan of his own. a plan that can pass both chambers of the congress. we are ready and eager to talk to the president about such a plan. >> mr. speaker, you did speak with the president earlier this week. can you characterize that call? did he have any kind of counteroffer? also, we understand that he just is making clear that it is -- got to be increase in rates for the wealthy or no deal. are you willing to give a little bit, maybe just not all the way to 39.6? >> it was the -- the phone call was pleasant. but it was just more of the same. the conve
. that hasn't happened. >> steve: okay. so the fiscal cliff is looming. there are a the lo of people who say the republicans need to stand together and if the president isn't gog deal fairly and offer up some spending cuts and talk about entitlement reform, the republicans need to be willing to hole hands and jump off the fiscal cliff with the president. are you ready? >> we would prefer that didn't happen. there are a lot of bad outcomes. you got a lot of analysis that's been done, ernst says if we go over the fiscal cliff or raise taxes it will cost us over 700,000 jobs, reduce economic growth, lower take home pay, all those things. that's a bad scenario. the president has made it very clear, tim geithner, his treasury secretary said a couple days ago, absolutely we're ready to go over the cliff. republicans don't think that's the solution. but i do think that if he gets what he wants, he gets higher taxes, he gets defense cuts, if we go over the cliff. so i don't think there is a lot of incentive on the president's part right now to be at the table to make a deal, which is why he's not v
we're facing a fiscal cliff or anything. >> you're right, susan. it's not a fiscal cliff but a slope. it's a gradual one. >> stooe, it's not right on to talk about people when they're right there. have some manners. do it behind their back. really, it's got for morale. there's a study and everything. >> if you can't say something nice to something, come on over here and tell it to me. no worries, you're among friends here. it's "the cycle." >>> two big developments on the economic front. first the unemployment numbers for november came out and they were way better than expected. we added a net gain of 146,000 jobs and the unemployment rate dropped to 7.7%, the lowest in four years. to steal a little from krystal, it appears it's obama and boehner one on one. there's no i in team but there's one in win, which is why the fiscal slope negotiations are getting serious. we haven't heard yet from the president but have heard from speaker boehner. >> this isn't a progress report, because there's no progress to report. the white house has wasted another week. it's time for the president, if
it be ok if doing so sent us over the fiscal cliff? give us a call this morning. you can also catch up with us on all of your favorite social media websites. a very good morning to you. i want to begin with the question of compromise or sticking to principle. this is a question a gallup organization asked in a recent poll. it found 62% of americans would like to see the federal government leaders compromise on an agreement to avoid the fiscal cliff budget measures set to go into effect next month. more than twice the 25% who want leaders to stick to their principles. a majority of all party groups favor compromise. here is the breakdown from the gallup organization. 71% of democrats say they want a compromise bursa's 21% who say the party should stick to their principles. among republicans 55% one compromise. 35% say stick to your principles. the gallup poll also found americans are more optimistic and pessimistic that an agreement will be reached before the deadline. 58% say it is a very or somewhat likely leaders will find a solution. 39% say it is not likely. democrats are much more
with reporters in an hour. the event comes with just 25 days until that fiscal cliff deadline. both sides of the aisle resumed talks thursday. first time that's happened all week. and comes and comes one day after president obama and speaker boehner talk bid telephone. >>> in japan a tsunami warning has been lifted. a 7.3 magnitude quake struck at sea 300 miles from tokyo. a small tsunami was triggered while a building shook in the capital city. happened almost in the same area along the northeastern coast devastated by a earthquake two years guy. >>> attorneys for george zimmerman are suing nbc universal for characterization of him in reporting on the trayvon martin shooting death. lawsuit claims nbc edited 911 recordings to make it appear that zimmerman was racist. nbc says it disputes the accusations and plans to defend itself in court. >>> on every flight, you have to power down your gadgets before takeoff and landing. but -- could that be changing? you might be surprised who is leading the charge. [ nyquil bottle ] hey tylenol, you know we're kinda like twins. [ tylenol bottle ] we a
to avert the fiscal cliff. there has been an epidemic of open-mindedness as republicans try to win minority votes and create a version of their party that can be competitive in states like connecticut and california. the republicans may still blow it. if president obama is flexible and they don't meet him part way, republicans would contribute to a recession that would discredit them for a decade. but they are moving in the right direction and moving fast. these are first steps, and encouraging ones. >> really encouraging. and it's not just what they're saying. it's how they're saying it. eric cantor came on. we've all, i think at times, even i as a conservative, who would vote probably along with eric cantor 99% of the time. saw him at times over the past couple years being a bit more obstructionist than i think was good for the party. i thought i loved his tone the other day. what did he focus on? he focused on jobs, on proving that conservatism actually helped all americans, not 53%, not 47%. and yesterday when i talked to jim demint on the phone, i expected to hear one thing. instead i
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